World In My Eyes

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"We cross our bridges when we come to them and burn them behind us, with nothing to show for our progress except a memory of the smell of smoke, and a presumption that once our eyes watered." - Guildenstern, Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead




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I'm taking a class on it, too. :)

Dhamaka says:

hmmm :)

10th May 2006, 15:24

daz says:

*points at tags*

10th May 2006, 15:24

Dhamaka says:

I read the tags Daz

btw, looking forward to meeting up again

10th May 2006, 15:30

mat says:

the worst bit is that I knew you meant the boring LaTex from the typography in the image.. :)

10th May 2006, 15:30

daz says:

I know you did. :)

10th May 2006, 15:30

daz says:

mat: Huh? - Sorry - am noob!

10th May 2006, 15:31

Geodyne says:

Ah, LaTex. I remember it fondly, although I don't need to use it anymore.

10th May 2006, 15:32

daz says:

miss no pants: It's a course on publishing stuff using LaTeX... so I guess the former?

10th May 2006, 15:32

mat says:

There are two types (no pun intended) of latex in this world - one is a quite dull typesetting markup language, the other is somewhat more intimate (and fun).

10th May 2006, 15:33

Geodyne says:

Yes; the former, Daz.

10th May 2006, 15:33

daz says:

mat - oh, it's the boring thing, then. ;)

10th May 2006, 15:34

mat says:

might as well use XML+XSLT these days, imho...

but then I never was a print person much. :)

10th May 2006, 15:35

daz says:

I've never heard of that, and honestly I think Pages and the in-built pdf export function would suffice, but y'know... Can't hurt! And I am SO NOT doing my thesis (I know, I know... in a few years..) in Word or Pages...

10th May 2006, 15:37

neel says:

I've always meant to get my head 'round LaTeX, but the last time I tried I was still stuck in pre-OS X, and getting anything postscript-y done wasn't pretty.

We're required to submit our essay work in Word files, you know. Isn't that appalling, from a standards point of view? Something like LaTeX, or some clever XML gimmickery would be much better, but it ain't gonna happen in my academic lifetime.

10th May 2006, 16:01

neel says:

Having said that, it does seem to be fairly standard in the scientific community, so rock on.

10th May 2006, 16:02

daz says:

Yech, required to submit Word files? Not even PDF? (I heart PDF!) ... What about the people who use anything other than Microsoft Office..?

10th May 2006, 16:05

mat says:

y'all know about openoffice.org, yeah? produces Word compatible files, but isn't crap like Word.

10th May 2006, 16:18

daz says:

Word isn't even compatible with itself, ... I wouldn't rely on it tbh. Especially when it comes to complex documents with footnotes and pictures and tables... OpenOffice was included when I said "anything other than". :)

10th May 2006, 16:22

neel says:

I keep bringing it up at our meetings, but their line is that they have to deal with a "standard" that the university absolutely, positively knows all students and staff have access to. Even if that's via the computer labs.

So I wrote my dissertation in TextWrangler and then spent two hours sat in the library, formatting it into Wordcrap.

(When you start a blank document in Word in our computer labs, it's automatically formatted as US legal. How. Dumb. Is. That?)

I'm still not too fond of the various OpenOffice whatsits: X11 isn't quite good enough. But now that I'm all MacIntel'd-up, I have to leave behind my venerable copy of Office '98... yeah, I know.

10th May 2006, 19:48

daz says:

I wrote my last paper in Pages, and liked it. The iWork 06 package should run on your IntelMac, too.

10th May 2006, 20:13

neel says:

Oh yes, but I'm too cheap to stump up the cash for it: wouldn't get any use out of Keynote - I'd have to drag the iMac to a presentation, and that's not an option - so I'd only really be paying for Pages. Years in Scotland have taken their toll on my spendthriftyness.

10th May 2006, 22:52

mat says:

The awesome AbiWord has just released a Mac native binary.

AbiWord rocks. It's not so hot for large (and I mean LARGE) documents, but for 99% of normal use, it's great.

11th May 2006, 00:28

daz says:

A lot of people also like NeoOffice, which is some kind of openoffice derivative IIRC.

11th May 2006, 06:29

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