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I make things on the web, mobile and in the actual world.

I've done lots of bits and bobs over the years, and right now I'm mostly working on this.

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21st Jun 2006, 09:22   | tags:,,

puddlepuff says:

Oh sod off,.....

How can you blame MySpace for that guy abusing her.

Was it RL abuse of Syber Abuse?

21st Jun 2006, 09:27

paintist says:

mmmm trouble is it could happen anywhere...moblog for instance, and if she wins her case, well.......

21st Jun 2006, 09:29

puddlepuff says:

..... all hell will brake loose.

And I will sue Maggie D ;)

21st Jun 2006, 09:32

paintist says:

she is a prime example....darn it she may not join if she sees this... :-(

21st Jun 2006, 09:34

puddlepuff says:

If she dousn't we'll sue Alfie.

*Blame it on Aflie is what I say.*

21st Jun 2006, 09:35

Joe says:

this is clearly an american lawsuit...in the UK we have this little thing called the CPS which prevents ridiculously letigious cases like this even making it to court.

21st Jun 2006, 09:37

paintist says:

good :-)

21st Jun 2006, 09:41

puddlepuff says:

16 millon,...

Oh, where do I sign up?!?

21st Jun 2006, 09:41

g says:

ha! how dare she!

there was a thing in the observer about blogger, myspace, youtube etc etc this weekend. nothing on moblogUK. the fools

if you want alfster email me your address and i'll pop it in the post

21st Jun 2006, 09:57

James says:

When will the world realise that there's very little danger out there, the real danger is thick, gulible people and parents who don't seem to know how to bring their kids up properly!

21st Jun 2006, 10:32

hildegard says:

Joe, CPS has no input on civil cases, hence the unedifying sight of Stephen Lawrence's parents trying to bring civil actions against his alleged killers. (Unedifying due to failures of police & CPS).
Not sure what the situation is in US but caveat emptor does spring to mind in this case...
James has a good point; failure of parental duty of care should form much of the defence argument, as too many parents seem to imagine that screens constitute childcare.
Huge cases like this serve only to obscure the simple truth that the most dangerous place for a woman or child to be is within a family - they are more likely to be killed or injured by their partners or carers than by anyone else. The obsession with stranger danger is a collective refusal to take a cold and serious look at domestic violence.
(Grrr)

21st Jun 2006, 12:42

kostika says:

The article doesn't say, but if it was cyber abuse, then well, it takes two to tango.

I totally agree with Hilde and James though. Parents should be parenting and not letting their kids sit in chat rooms.

21st Jun 2006, 12:50

beckleen says:

here here
I'm on myspace and yeah its full of freaks, weirdos and strange beings. But if your blind enough to think they're cool and start talkin to them then well it's your own fault if they start stalkin you.. i think so anyway but what do i know i'm only a kid...found this website clicked on stuff and here i am typing to no one no where...thats study leave for you!!

21st Jun 2006, 12:56

alfie says:

hehe, yadayada, you tell me George ;)

21st Jun 2006, 13:33

SaharaSB says:

What James says is an absolute classic and complete SPOT ON !

21st Jun 2006, 13:39

bronxelf says:

Alf-- it's not the first time a lawsuit has been associated with MySpace. It might be the first time suit has been directly levelled against them.

This week an article in the New York Post (that is to say, it's just barely an article, as the Post is barely a newspaper) discussed a guy who was fishing for stupid girls (and got em) on Facebook: here

21st Jun 2006, 16:24

James says:

I think part of the problem as someone mentioned is parents using the web as childcare, although not only that.

Parents just don't seem to trust thier kids these days (I'm sounding way too old for 25!). And this breeds mistrust. The kids don't tell the parents where they're going, or who they're seeing (or lie about it) because they don't think their parents trust them....because a lot of parents DON'Tand always assume the worse when it comes to their teenage kids...and in turn the kids don't trust their parents.

I'm not a parent, but when I was a teenager I did things I maybe should have (getting drunk in local parks, going to pubs underage), BUT I never did anyting that would harm myself or someone else. Nor did I ever get in harm's way, because I was sensible...I had my head screwed on and I think my parents knew that. They weren't the type who didn't care where I was, or what I was doing (like a lot of my friend's parents) and they weren't the type who came down on me like an iron fist.

But even at my most obnoxios I talked to them, told them where I was going, who I'd be with etc and I think because of the way they trusted me, I trusted them so it was joint thing.

They knew they'd brought me up well enough to make the right decisions myself, or course I made mistakes, but they'd let me and help me when I did (instead of just punish me)....and for me that's what seems to be lacking in cases like this.

I suppose the internet wasn't anywhere near as much of a day-to-day thing in teens' lives 10 years ago when I was 15, but it's the principal I'm talking about.

Of course any form of abuse is tragic, but as 'hildegard' pointed out 'stranger danger' is a lot less likely than other things. Especially if you've been brought up to think for yourself and be sensible.

21st Jun 2006, 17:37