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Dionysus, God of Wine

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mrs540air says:

oh yes God of wine we worshipt at his feet ;-)

27th Aug 2006, 01:14

spoon_lamp says:

He wasn't just the god of wine though, was he? Come on! Out with it!!

27th Aug 2006, 11:28

hildegard says:

Erm, vines, wine, vegetation/ agriculture, mysteries, religious ecstasy, ivy, theatre, bulls... have I left anything out?
(edit) Flutes.

28th Aug 2006, 01:57

spoon_lamp says:

can we pretend he was also the god of orgies and hiding fruit in naughty places?
:O

...and who was it that spelled it "Dionysius" (or was it "Dionisius")?

28th Aug 2006, 14:57

hildegard says:

Well, the orgies were possible, if you insist - religious enthusiasm, y'see - it meant to be posessed by the spirit of the god... ecstatic transports of drunkeness...ecstacy being defined as being taken out of normal ways of being... but well, drunkeness + human hydraulics is never a happy combo so maybe not...
Spelling is partly a matter of taste when transcribing from one alphabet to another, but Dionysus wasn't an entirely Greek god, so his name isn't even certain in the original texts; ???????? or ????????. Go figure... :)
As for the fruit... if you're right, I think he's been round here - bought a load of organic fruit & forgot about it... that bag was a very naughty place by the time I found it again - an orgy of fruitflies... :(

28th Aug 2006, 15:18

Gael says:

or Bacchus, of course : )
Have you read The Secret History ?

28th Aug 2006, 15:35

hildegard says:

the DonnaTartt book?

28th Aug 2006, 15:58

Gael says:

that's the one - it was fun to be reading it in conjunction with The Bacchae and various other Classical works

28th Aug 2006, 16:13

hildegard says:

Hm. Do you have any sentimental engagement with it, or do I tell you what I really think? ;)

28th Aug 2006, 16:25

Gael says:

No : )
Let rip ...

28th Aug 2006, 16:26

hildegard says:

Thank gawd. :)
I thought it was a contender for Worst Book of the Year. It didn't sink to the depths of the DaVinci Code but it was low, low, low.
The plot was tedious & predictable, the characters mere sigils of themselves and as such, the weight of pretension they were asked to bear was too great for their puny frames. As narrative devices, I wanted them all to die and soon, then perhaps the rest of the book might turn out to be a competent police procedural or something. But no.
Her abuse of philosophical texts both offended & embarassed me on her behalf. I thought could hear the voice of a bright but lazy student, parotting her tutor's opinions, and the fruits of dilatory perusal of the Routledge Reader series. With perhaps, a smattering from one or two of the shorter canonical works thrown in, so that she can imagine herself familiar with "original texts".
Forgive the purple prose, but I don't think she tried very hard with her writing either. ;D

28th Aug 2006, 16:35

farmboyphil says:

*bewildered*

29th Aug 2006, 10:03

hildegard says:

Hehe, was having a bit of an irritable day yesterday but Tartt's book did make me cross when I first read it.
Think it's a bad thing when people take a little knowledge & use it to imply greater knowledge of a subject than they actually have. They end up fudging & misrepresenting the knowledge they have & so add to the sum of human ignorance. That's cheating their readers.

29th Aug 2006, 12:27

Gael says:

I didn't think it was that bad, though I found all the characters intensely irritating. I'd love to read some more book reviews by you : )

29th Aug 2006, 17:18

farmboyphil says:

*nodding vacantly..*

30th Aug 2006, 11:03

spoon_lamp says:

I agree. I was given the Tarty book as a birthday present (thanks Kieron!) and wasn't overly impressed (sorry Kieron!). I did like some of the desriptive elements, like when people are being lonely in the rain/snow (I forget) but yes, bit of a non-book really. Didn't seems to go anywhere or do anything for me.

1st Sep 2006, 07:55