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Arnold went off his food, got very poorly, was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism, got medication, but still wouldn't eat. I was Worried.

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Arnold has gained a little weight & begun to eat. Small exhalations of relief, building up to a sigh if progress continues. Ta for all suggestions & kind comments while I've been frit witless. :)

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SaharaSB says:

oh bless him... hope he gets well soon.

dont know what to suggest - i would have thought the tuna would have been wolfed down anytime... :(

come on arnie...

28th Oct 2006, 16:29

hildegard says:

Hills make a high-energy food that can be made into paste & syringe-fed but it's not a nice experience for him. There's lots of people on Moblog with experience of cat rescue so it seemed a good place to stick up a quick bleat... :)

28th Oct 2006, 16:32

SaharaSB says:

well good luck hun.. i only know about dogs im afraid and whenever they've been ill a tin of tuna or boiled chicken has sorted them out (thankfully)

how old is he?

28th Oct 2006, 16:34

Spiderbaby says:

Is he still drinking? Maybe something could be got into him that way? Poor little cat - hope he's feeling better soon.

28th Oct 2006, 16:38

SaharaSB says:

is there a vitamin drink or something he can have in the meantime to give him a bit of energy.

28th Oct 2006, 16:40

hildegard says:

He's nearly 14 - prime age for onset of feline hyperthyroidism. If we can just keep body & soul together until the right dosage is found, he'll be fine for years to come. Typically, cats with this condidtion eat voraciously. Trust Arnold to go for an atypical presentation!

28th Oct 2006, 16:41

paintist says:

tabby has similar problems...but when she isnt eating I boil fish and rice...she usually drinks the liquid leaves the rice and nibbles the fish...but I consider that she has got a little of everything if she manages some of the 'soup'....good luck with your lovely Arnold.....

28th Oct 2006, 16:43

hildegard says:

He's still drinking a little out of my glass; it's a dominance thing - if he gets his nose in there, he's "won" it from me, so when well, he'll take a sip even if he's just had a drink, just to show he can.
Anyway, this means all the pint glasses are now dotted around the floor of the house for him to "find" & claim for his own...

28th Oct 2006, 16:45

paintist says:

you will have to sit around pretending you 'love' fishy juice.... lol

28th Oct 2006, 16:47

hildegard says:

Have some fish in sauce for cats; might try a bit of rice with that, he needs some carbs... & the sauce/soupy part will give him fluids, as you say, P. Is Tabby hyperthyroid too?

28th Oct 2006, 16:50

MaggieD says:

Well it is good that he is still drinking, I hope there will be enough nutrition in what he is taking in liquid form to carry him through until the drugs start taking effect .... fingers crossed ....

28th Oct 2006, 16:52

paintist says:

vet suspects so...she is losing a lot of weight, we took blood tests but she must be borderline, i have to keep an eye on her, but will have to take her back soon as she has lost such a lot of weight over the last week and is being sick, and gone of her food....strangely she is beating up the dogs to get to theirs....they all love fishy juice ....

28th Oct 2006, 16:53

hildegard says:

Mandy - no, not yet; he's only been on the meds a couple of days so wouldn't expect any change. With these kinds of drugs vets prefer to titrate up to a safe dose, rather than down.

28th Oct 2006, 17:22

Dhamaka says:

I'm sorry H, here's hoping. Is there something like feline B complex?

28th Oct 2006, 17:23

silar31 says:

I'd be inclined to wonder if the not eating is actually a symptom seperate from the hyperthyroidism - like perhaps he is in pain from his hips and bad leg. I'd talk to the vet about a pain medication of some sort (I have no idea what's good for cats) and start him on a dose of Adequan or some other form of glucosamine for the arthritis.

28th Oct 2006, 17:23

hildegard says:

D- yup; it's called Vitam-R, also available as Tartex & in the difusion range; Marmite. ;)
He will still lick yeast extract & butter off my fingers, so at least I know he's getting his Bvits. :)

28th Oct 2006, 17:26

hildegard says:

Silar - the appetite is the thyroid problem for sure - the disease presents with anorexia in a significant minority of cats. :(

28th Oct 2006, 17:27

Dhamaka says:

he's taking a lot of work, when he's better he'll probably expect you to continue...

28th Oct 2006, 17:40

hildegard says:

Don't mind, D. Hyperthyroidism is often a life-limiting illness so if I don't have many years to spoil him, I fully intend to make the most of it...

28th Oct 2006, 17:46

FunnyBunny says:

Awww, poor Arnie!
My Arnold had EXACTLY the same problem, all of a sudden he wouldn't eat and when we took him to the vet he'd lost a lot of weight! We had to syringe feed him small amounts of baby food, which he took for a bit but then rejected, try to make sure he still drinks though, you don't want him getting dehydrated as well, maybe you could try giving his favourite foods as a sort of paste? with Arnold, he seemed to prefer that, I force fed him that and once he tasted it he seemed to like it quite a bit (although, it was apple flavoured baby food, which is usually used for rabbits who wont eat, not sure about cats though, sorry!!)...
Hope he gets well soon!!! xx

28th Oct 2006, 17:56

FunnyBunny says:

P.S. He's a lovely looking cat :-)

28th Oct 2006, 17:57

hildegard says:

Hope you've checked the 'Arnie' tag FB, when he's on form he's a very fine fellow indeed. Not that I'm biased or anything... ;)

28th Oct 2006, 18:02

FunnyBunny says:

I'm sure he is :-)

28th Oct 2006, 18:28

FunnyBunny says:

P.S. Do you know if they do 'Science Plan' for rabbits?!

28th Oct 2006, 18:29

hildegard says:

Er, 'from', not 'for', FB. :(
Think Roger Rabbit is still #1 bunny food... :)
Paintist - you'm a very Useful Person. Not having any proper fish about the place, I made a sort of soup from a tin of gourmet cat food. It went down better than anything he's tried for a couple of days so soup & fishy juices from here on in...

28th Oct 2006, 18:44

FunnyBunny says:

Glad to hear he's eating something :-)

28th Oct 2006, 18:55

farmboyphil says:

I put warm oxo gravy on midges when she's being fussy... probably doesn't help....sorry hope Arnold bounces back soon

28th Oct 2006, 22:54

farmboyphil says:

P.s how's ur british gas problem coming on... never rains an all that..

28th Oct 2006, 22:56

paintist says:

oh wow...I'm glad he has eaten something....little and often perhaps..... good luck with the meds....

29th Oct 2006, 14:40

hildegard says:

Paintist - not having eaten for so long I should have realised he might find chewing & swallowing difficult. Got another 25g of chicken & some fishy juices down him so far today, which is major progress, thank you kindly...
NB; perverse creature that he is, this is not typical disease progression - few hyperthyroid cats lose their appetites & do this sudden crash thing. Tabby sounds to be being a lot more sensible about it. :)
Mind you, at least we didn't have to repeat the T4 test - the results were pretty definitive. ;)

29th Oct 2006, 15:11

frog51 says:

poor wee scrap - hope he picks up soon!

30th Oct 2006, 10:43

Poor thing! One of my cats stopped eating after being hit by a car. I was really getting worried until one day she started lapping up the juice from a salmon my husband had cooked! Hope your little bloke improves soon.

30th Oct 2006, 20:04

hildegard says:

Ta for kind wishes but things aren't going at all well for Arnie. Going to call the vet in the morning. Hyperthyroidism is rarely fatal in itself but the more weight he loses, the less able he is to withstand the strain on his organs. He's only eaten a few grammes of food today & looks like Callista Flockhart in a bear suit... :(

30th Oct 2006, 20:28

Aaaww I really hope he gets better soon

30th Oct 2006, 21:15

farmboyphil says:

*fingers and paws crossed*

1st Nov 2006, 00:02

Caine says:

Aww, poor boy. You might try baby food - the pure meat ones. They've worked for me when nothing else has. Best to you both.

1st Nov 2006, 16:53

Sahara says:

oh bless him, really hope he gets well soon.

1st Nov 2006, 16:54

hildegard says:

Way hey! Went to vet & the boy's stopped losing weight, he's actually gained 4g (& right now every one of those counts). Temp was a bit up so he's had an antibiotic shot & a B12. Also bought prescription high-cal food which he likes - eating tiny amounts but doing it reassuringly more often.
He's still a poorly mog but the meds do seem to be working... :D

1st Nov 2006, 22:12

MaggieD says:

Yay indeed! .... so pleased to hear he is in on the road to recovery ... just hope his progress continues ....

1st Nov 2006, 22:29

silar31 says:

Yay! Go Arnie! We'll keep sending him good vibes too, so he'll keep eating.

1st Nov 2006, 22:53

hildegard says:

Vibes, crossed fingers/ paws, etc, all gratefully received. :)
Arnie goes back to the vet in a week but he does seem to have started to respond to the felimazole. Feeling rather less apprehensive now...

1st Nov 2006, 23:15

Tori says:

I hope he keeps doing better :)

Now that he is eating again it might not matter, but with all my cats, when they are not feeling well they really don't like eating out of bowls. They are much more likely to take food from a flat surfance, directly off the floor, or from a plate or lid. When Willow had her terrible jaw infection it was baby food off of cottage cheese container lids for weeks.

2nd Nov 2006, 01:14

hildegard says:

He's only insisting on china so far - the plastic pet bowls are too depressing or something...

2nd Nov 2006, 01:45

silar31 says:

That's good actually - I'd strongly consider replacing the plastic bowls altogether anyway. Plastic can be a breeding ground for bacteria - especially if you feel canned (tinned) foods. As plastic ages, it develops microdepressions that are nearly impossible to get fully clean. Metal or ceramic bowls are the way to go.

2nd Nov 2006, 04:30

FunnyBunny says:

Glad to hear he's gettin' better...slowly but surely :-)

2nd Nov 2006, 17:36

hildegard says:

Silar - My Nana's tip; clean plastic pet bowls, picnicware, etc, with a bicarbonate of soda paste & soak in sterilising fluid or denture cleaner. Really does the business. :)

2nd Nov 2006, 17:43

silar31 says:

I'd have never thought of denture cleaner - does make good sense, doesn't it! I'll make a note - might run into some critter than just doesn't care for steel bowls at some point.

3rd Nov 2006, 04:38

farmboyphil says:

Great news Hilde, I know how much of a worry these things are...
Midge is living in a lap of luxury at the moment as we're home for the weekend and Ma is spoiling her rotten...
Keep up the good work Arnold...

4th Nov 2006, 00:30

hildegard says:

He's still terribly weak but I heard rustling today & caught him with his head jammed in a bag of treats. I think I may have cut some sort of jig or caper at that point. :)

4th Nov 2006, 00:46