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There is no need for this level of violence

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The photos didn't come out because my poor little phone doesn't do movement
very well and my hands were shaking from fear.... I was walking down the
high street with DD earlier having left BS in Curry's drooling at some or
other gadgetry when I saw a huge man violently manhandling what appeared to
be a child, frogmarching him up the road towards me. I thought for one
insane moment that it was a perv attempting to abduct a young lad when I
realised that the big violent guy was a member of sales staff from one of
those sportswear shops and the child was a slightly built teenage lad who
had been shoplifting. The shop guy was so violent, I had to say something,
particularly as I had DD with me so I said "Please stop, there is no need
for this level of violence, stop or I will photograph you.." I thought the
threat of being photographed would stop him but it didn't he just carried on
while I snapped away and continued to say "there is no need for this level
of violence". Eventually a young woman joined me who repeatedly said "stop,
you are assaulting this lad, whatever he has done does not warrant this" but
still the man kept on really hurting the shoplifter. The young guy wriggled
out of what was left of his clothes and ran away. I said to the shop guy
"how dare you behave like that in front of my child" and he still didn't
answer, he was like a horrible violent robot. The reason I was afraid? I
thought the police may have been called and around here they arrest
EVERYBODY who has any connection with an incident, including witnesses and
then sort out who is who at the police station. I really didn't want to get
arrested with DD in tow.

29th Nov 2006, 19:21 | tags:sports world international

,violence

BelovedSpaceman says:

I have rarely seen Twiglet as shaken as she was by this incident. I rolled up shortly after it was all over and she was standing there with DD and a couple of other women who all proceeded to tell me of the incident. Each filling in parts for the others. I went into the shop to ask for a means of making a complaint to the head office. I don't really want my daughter seeing some steroid bound thug twatting the hell out of a teenager, even if they are a thieving sod. What I cant get over is how this oaf was prepared to risk arrest for GBH for the sake of a couple of quids worth of clothes that he does not even own. They must pay him a fortune. Anyway I have an address to send a complaint to, so if anyone else would like to protest at this kind of behaviour let us know.

29th Nov 2006, 19:51

Dazzle_Dust says:

Fook me, hope ur ok now. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

29th Nov 2006, 19:55

Twiglet says:

Cheers Dazzle_Dust. One of the reasons I'm all shook up is the effort of behaving in an adult way. In the old days I'd have shouted "leave 'im alone you fat bastard" and run off.

29th Nov 2006, 19:58

swamprose says:

same thing has happened to me. It is hard when your child sees it all. I bet what DD will remember in the end,is that you stood up, tried to do the right thing. And maybe that kid who ran away will remember it too. my kids remember me saying 'go ahead, arrest me' with fondness. at the time they were terrified. good on you. rest easy.

29th Nov 2006, 22:29

crickson says:

Eeek - at least you were ok...

29th Nov 2006, 22:51

hildegard says:

God's teeth. What a loathsome scene. Glad you're OK. The 'take 'em all into custody & sort it out later' approach may have something to do with why the Met have such trouble getting people to help with their investigations. Just maybe... blue sky notion, you understand... (sigh)

30th Nov 2006, 01:47

Gael says:

scarey. Well done for saying something, I'm not sure that I would have been that brave. I'm sure DD will remember your actions, rather than the stupidity of the enforcer

30th Nov 2006, 12:11

kel says:

Well done you for standing up to him. I remember seeing my mum (who was about five foot!) standing up to people in similar incidents and although i was scared, that's what stays with me about her.

30th Nov 2006, 12:26

Twiglet says:

Thanks folks. DD is quite used to seeing me speak out if I see an unfair situation but this particular incident was just so frighteningly violent. Most people were crossing the street to avoid it although one of DD's teachers passed by to see me at the tail end of defending the human rights of a shoplifter. I haven't cared what a teacher thought about ME since I was 5 but I hope DD wasn't too ashamed.

30th Nov 2006, 14:06

Sir Findo Gask says:

you should have kicked him in the nuts...

1st Dec 2006, 07:56

Twiglet says:

Strangely enough SFG, that is EXACTLY what DD said. Sometimes I wonder why I bother to try and set a good example....

1st Dec 2006, 08:25

Sir Findo Gask says:

Seriously if he was doing that much harm, whether to a shop lifter or not I would have been tempted to soften him up a bit. Especially if there were witnesses to say you were stopping the thug from abusing the kid.

1st Dec 2006, 08:59

Twiglet says:

Three things:
1 I can't/won't do violence.
2 Most of the witnesses were in a great hurry to get past.
3 As I said I was afraid of getting arrested with DD in tow.

1st Dec 2006, 13:48

FilbertFox says:

Flippin heck mate. Well done you for doing the right think when the wrong thing (walking away) would have been so much easier.

2nd Dec 2006, 17:08

JokerXL says:

That's frightening.
I'm sure DD will only remember, long term, the bit about her Mom standing up for what's right.
I'm sorry to say that I don't believe that the police would have cared less whether you had pictures of the incident or not and just hauled the kid away. It seems like the easiest option, from their point of view, if they'd bothered to turn up at all.
(no, I'm not that confident in "the boys in blue" these days)

4th Dec 2006, 18:49

Twiglet says:

You are probably right Joker. The police only seem to turn out for gun crimes these days.

4th Dec 2006, 19:05