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Saw this dog (horse) while out on a walk the other day. He was big and drooly and had no owner in sight. He was meandering very slowly along, scoping things out. He was wearing a pinch collar, but turned inside out, more of a weapon for the dog than a corrective tool for the owner at that point. No tags on him. He was interested in drooling all over KFZ's leg while deciding whether or not to eat her. I was concerned about him being out by himself. I ordered him to "come" to see if he was obedience trained. It was obvious from his expression that he was familiar with the word, gave me a cautious look and began walking away from me. "Sit!" I told him in an authoritative tone. He recognized this too and began to jog rapidly away from me, turning to give me looks over his shoulder, both so I would feel guilty about harshing his mellow, and to make sure I was not following. Apparently he was not a fan of obedience.
24th Apr 2007, 21:39   | tags:,


Viv says:

which is probably where the story starts!

He is a fantastic looking dog - lets hope he knew his way home!

24th Apr 2007, 21:57

hildegard says:

He's a handsome beastie & no mistake...
Obedience training - "One word from me & he does just as he pleases..."
What on earth is a pinch collar? Sounds ick...

24th Apr 2007, 22:27

Tori says:

They are called pinch or prong collars and they look like this. When you pull they poke and pinch and get the dogs attention, and they release that pressure very rapidly as you release. It can be a useful tool in training a stubborn dog. I never needed one until London.

24th Apr 2007, 22:35

hildegard says:

Off the top of my head, I'd say those things are probably illegal in the UK.

24th Apr 2007, 23:59

Dhamaka says:

he looks lovely
I hope he´s OK now

25th Apr 2007, 01:11

silar31 says:

Maybe illegal over there, which is unfortunate, as in the right hands they are a very useful tool to help train stubborn large dogs. My parent's large Labrador mix had one - when we got her she was 9 months old, already over 60 lbs, and completely out of control. We took her to obedience because I was getting married and moving out and neither parent could walk her. The pinch collar help us to teach her manners quickly and without having to constantly verbally correct her.

25th Apr 2007, 02:13

Tori says:

London has been extensively obedience trained and is 8 years old, and no puppy. He gets a lot of enrichment and attention. He lives with two cats and treats them with a reasonable level of respect mixed with a bit of fun. However without the pinch collar to occasionally remind him would happily rip my arm right out of the socket on walks when a bunny suddenly darts across his path and startles him into giving chase instead of minding his leash manners.

The prongs are not sharpened, they are flat with rounded edges. I've used it on my arm, and it is not a stabbing pain, and he has thick thick fur. They are bred to be strong and to pull heavy weights. They are bred to ignore discomfort. A regular collar or a choke collar are just a buzzing fly annoyance to him. The pinch collar says "hello, pay attention" and he does, not perfectly, but enough that we are both safer for it. It has never once made him yelp.

25th Apr 2007, 02:29

silar31 says:


We think Shawnee might have been mixed with Collie or possibly Husky - she had a much heavier coat than a Lab, almost a "brush" coat like a Finnish spitz. She was a lovely dog, and loved other animals - but if a squirrel crossed her path, the collar reminded her not to yank my tiny mother off her feet. I will say the one time she ignored it was the time they got jumped by a very large, psychotic dog who attacked them - she ignored the collar to defend my mother until the dogs owners hauled it off.

25th Apr 2007, 03:01

eroika says:

I find pinch collars to be very useful in training, at least in my limited experience with my friends dog who regularly likes to remove shoulders from sockets. The pinch is really more of a startle rather than a pain to the dog and they learn pretty damned quick.

29th Apr 2007, 05:23

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