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..we bought this last Wednesday?!

When this series aired on TV it was rumoured that Martha and Mickey
might be joining Torchwood to replace Tosh and Owen. At the end of last
night's DW this looked distinctly possible..... Or was I alone in
thinking this?
6th Jul 2008, 07:55   | tags:,,,,

Helen says:

Hell yeah, they were practically signing contracts.

6th Jul 2008, 10:59

Jane Doe says:

Martha floated in and out of Series Two anyway, so...
I'd have thought Mickey was a bit busy writing and directing, but never say never

I was really disappointed with series Two, I loved the first one but the last series just seemed to go for silly and excessive, rather than camp. They seemed to get cold feet and retreat from the promising exploration of alternatives and basically go for laughs with a side of sadism

6th Jul 2008, 18:13

Twiglet says:

I love Torchwood too much to be very critical of it. However, I thought series 2 started strong, got a bit weak (undead Owen) and finished strongly. My favourite episode was Adrift, not because of the Jack/Ianto hand job in the conservatory but because it was powerful, dark and disturbing.

Martha was in a couple of episodes but she seemed somewhat underused.

6th Jul 2008, 21:23

taniwha says:

It sounds like I should check this out. I read a Charlie Booker review a while ago that referred to it as a psychotic child's fantasy or something like that. But I could be convinced.

6th Jul 2008, 21:27

Twiglet says:

If m/m action squicks you then it's not for you. Who is Charlie Booker and what has he got against psychotic fantasies? : )

6th Jul 2008, 21:30

taniwha says:

Nah, M/M stuff doesn't bother me ... ever seen Six Feet Under? If ever a show was about the glorious diversity of Sex and death

Charlie Booker writes very funny reviews in the Guardian. When it comes to psychotic fantasies I think he may have been writing approvingly

6th Jul 2008, 21:32

Twiglet says:

Go for it then. If you like DW I don't see how you can fail to like Torchwood and if you like M/M, well... You'll love it.

*Makes mental note to see six feet under but can't bring self to buy a newspaper under any circumstances whatsoever...

6th Jul 2008, 21:36

taniwha says:

6 feet under ain't showing anymore but you could pick u the box set for not much now. BUT, it isn't Dr Who ... show about a family who grew up in a funeral parlour. Very dark. Very funny. Very similar to 'Dead Like Me'.

6th Jul 2008, 21:46

Twiglet says:

It doesn't need to be like Dr Who. I've made no secret of the fact that I don't much like Dr Who and most of the time don't even watch it. Most adults I know absolutely love it in the same way I suppose that they love Michaela Strachen or John Noakes, but for me it will never be anything other than kid's sci fi and I have a particular loathing for sci fi. Having said that DW has been around almost as long as I have so I can name all the Doctors and most of the creatures and I certainly loved this latest davros. I got the biggest shock of all when I got into Torchwood and that was only by series 2. I so loved s2 that BS and DD got me series 1 for Mother's day. I never saw s1 on TV at all even though BS and DD watched it religiously.

My biggest problem with DW and TW is that I cannot get my head around time travel....at all. Even the Terminator gives me migraine. BS spends many patient hours trying to explain it but it alternately fascinates me and repels me. But my favourite DW was the one with the weeping angels even though I start to go insane if I think too hard about it.

6th Jul 2008, 22:22

seaneeboy says:

Season 2 of Torchwood was a vast improvement on season 1 (ooh season, get me, all americanised).

Season 3 is going to be just 5 episodes, all around one storyline, possibly even played out in all one week.

Between that and the cut down Dr Who offering next year how will we cope?!

EDIT: and not to suggest anything, but is DD a little young for TW?

7th Jul 2008, 15:50

mat says:

Brooker. It's Charlie Brooker. He co-wrote The 11 O'clock show, Nathan Barley, the excellent TVGoHome and other extremely funny satirical projects (Charlie co-owns Zeppotron, a comedy production house recentlyish bought by Endemol).

He does Screen Wipe on BBC4 in addition to his Screen Burn tv criticry and editorial columns in the Guardian. He used to have the most wonderfully offensive column in the back pages of PC Zone. Offensive enough to get the Zone banned from WH Smiths.

He's an angry man with great taste in TV (it was Brooker's glowing recommendation that got me watching The Wire), and I'm a Big Fan.

7th Jul 2008, 17:36

Twiglet says:

Much as I love TW seanee I'd rather it ended before it goes on too long if you know what I mean. Also Cpt Jack is supposed to be immortal, at some point the actor is going to go grey/bald/wrinkly whatever. Jack is supposed to remain the same forever, JB cannot.

As for use of the word season, did you perchance listen to the Now Show on R4 last week?

Yes DD is far too young for TW. We taped each episode for her while watching it ourselves and there are some which she hasn't seen. However, compared to the 6 O'clock news TW is less likely to give her nightmares. The recent story of the French students....Now THAT is TV to protect our children from. On the plus side it has made her soooo damn cool about same sex relationships and we're all for equality and diversity. : )

7th Jul 2008, 17:37

Twiglet says:

Thanks for the info mat, I think I've seen Nathan Barley but I will look out for his work.

I notice no one is brave enough to try explaining time travel......

7th Jul 2008, 17:39

mat says:

Don't get me started on time travel. I'm a lifelong theoretical physics geek with formal philosophy training.

"it's just a plot device, just roll with it" is by far the best explanation (at least that can fit into the next few hours!). :)

With TW, they can easily just move the whole thing forward X years as JB gets physically older. In the unlikely event of it still being going in five, ten years. Look at how old the Captain looked by the year 5 billion, for example.

7th Jul 2008, 17:49

Rich says:

Captain Jack ends up as a massive head in a jar (seeing as you haven't been paying massive amounts of attention to Who you probably missed that) it's safe to say that he gets grey, decrepit, beheaded and grows a set of fleshy dreadlocks. I reckon between here and the year 5 billion there's room for a few more series of torchwood yet. Being immortal in this case doesn't mean never growing old.
More sci-fi would be nice, in fact generally better plots and less boring relationship shit would be superb. Go with the gonzo crazy, say I.

Season 1: Mostly terrible
Season 2: Funnier writing but still mostly terrible plots brimming with lazy cliches.
Season 3: will be shorter. Which'll probably help.

7th Jul 2008, 17:58

Rich says:

what exactly needs to be explained about time travel? What exactly don't you understand about it?

7th Jul 2008, 18:00

Twiglet says:

I knew that about the face of Boe, Rich, DD told me and there's some stuff about it on the DVD extras. I'm a girl, I like relationship shit.....

Time travel? I don't even understand the bloody international time lines...

By some strange and spooky coincidence mat, BS is also those things you are and a logician to boot. You really should have seen his face the day I said "Gravity? It's just a theory isn't it?"

7th Jul 2008, 18:07

Rich says:

yeah you might want to check what theory actually means. You said "Gravity? It's just basically proven, isn't it?" You probably meant hypothesis, which it ain't.

And as Mat said, time travel is a plot device. Magic box, take me to the sixties. Woop, I'm in the sixties. Magic box, take me to the future. Hey, future!
That's pretty much it.

7th Jul 2008, 18:38

Twiglet says:

Hence the look on his face maybe!

7th Jul 2008, 18:50

seaneeboy says:

Very responsible, Twiglet, good for you.

They did create "pre-watershed" TWs for season 2 - taking out the worst of the violence & swearywords... I'd be surprised if TW Season 3 (no, missed radio 4, but i get berated every time I say it on Digital Spy) doesn't have a pre-watershed version (or perhaps they won't even have a "swearyviolencegrownup" version at all!) given it's shifting to BBC 1...

8th Jul 2008, 16:39