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First site of an Atheist Bus, Leeds

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Don't worry - safely stopped at traffic lights when this was taken.

"There's Probably No God. No Stop Worrying. And enjoy your life."

I like the sentiment.
7th Jan 2009, 09:24   | tags:,,,

Twiglet says:

Hurray for atheist forms of public transport!

7th Jan 2009, 09:56

kyoob says:

yay!

7th Jan 2009, 10:06

Anonymous says:

Humanist bus.

7th Jan 2009, 12:03

Viv says:

:)

7th Jan 2009, 12:04

Steve says:

I'm dead pleased that these have taken off.

7th Jan 2009, 12:20

Steve says:

Oh and just to be pedantic that should be "now stop worrying" not "no stop worrying"


7th Jan 2009, 12:22

Helen says:

Looks more like an agnostic bus to me.

(PS... sight.)

7th Jan 2009, 12:22

Joe says:

Spelling nazis abound :D

I helped pay for these.

7th Jan 2009, 12:24

Wendle says:

Heehee. Brilliant :)

7th Jan 2009, 15:13

Richard M Marshall(rmm-at-rapid-software-dot-com) says:

Helen's absolutely right - the "probably" makes it agnostic. A simple "There is no god" is athiest and gives no room for the missionary religious to try and drive in wedges.

7th Jan 2009, 15:16

julianlstar (Julian-at-littlestar-dot-tv) says:

There are 800 of these buses around the country, way to go. Do you think we can club together and do one in the US

7th Jan 2009, 15:26

colin says:

I would have thought it equally could have read
"Thankfully there's a God, now stop worrying and enjoy your life"

7th Jan 2009, 17:27

Helen says:

I think it's more a case of typo nazism.

It could be the first site, but I expect that bus was parked somewhere else earlier in the day, so it probably isn't the first site. I expect someone else saw the bus today too, so it might not be the first sighting either... But the important thing is that it was Chris' first sighting.

Phew. Now to turn this excess pedantry to accounting. Boo.

7th Jan 2009, 17:49

gofes says:

So they rolled it out the whole country seeing as they got so much money.

Good stuff.

7th Jan 2009, 17:54

chris says:

Hehe. Wow.

Helen, yup should be sight - in fact in the original post I tried to make via Shozu it was, but that didn't work and I hurridly wrote an email. Too hurridly.

The 'probably' is interesting - yup, makes it agnostic and Mr Dawkins doesn't like it because of that, apparently.

And it's already in the US.

7th Jan 2009, 18:25

Twiglet says:

Well! As we are picking up on the spelling, I've spelled atheist in my first comment differently to Chris....

Does this mean one of us is going to Hell...If so, which one of us?

7th Jan 2009, 19:00

Helen says:

It means that Chris is not really an atheist and, therefore, it's you that is going to Hell.

7th Jan 2009, 19:07

Twiglet says:

Helen: At least I'll be warm!

7th Jan 2009, 19:10

Joe says:

I'm a dyslexic agnostic insomniac, I lie awake every night wondering if there really is a dog.

7th Jan 2009, 19:17

mat says:

I saw one of these today too. Didn't have time to take a photo though.

Atheism is, really, just as much a position of faith as believing in a god. I could take the position "there are definitely no black swans in the world" ("aswanism"), but that requires proof too (not to mention being philosophically untenable - the swan around the next corner could be a black one). One can make an excellent case for the bible/koran/etc not being literally true, but it's as impossible to make a definitive statement about there being no Higher Power as otherwise. Agnosticism (with a heavy bias towards the "very probably no god" end of things) is the only rational position, in my humble internet opinion.

Dawkins annoys me in the same way Monbiot annoys me - he's so confrontational that the only people he'll ever convince are people who are on his side already. Although, that said, I think the busses should be more confrontational - "Why does God, if he loves us so, send earthquakes and disease to kill innocents?", "Studies prove praying increases recovery time from illness", and so on. We should ask people Hard Questions about their faith, not just tell them they're wrong.

7th Jan 2009, 19:18

Samson says:

God is coming Soon! This is the reality.

7th Jan 2009, 21:44

hildegard says:

Mmm, theodicy - one of my favourite words. Have I ever mentioned CS Lewis' A Question of Pain? A lovely, concise, intelligent Xian account of the problem. One doesn't have to agree, but it's a good read.

The thing is though, faith isn't susceptible to reason, or it wouldn't be faith. If the faithful of whatever hue or stripe were all properly aware of the Kierkegaardian absurdity of their position, I've no doubt everyone would rub along much better....

7th Jan 2009, 22:04

Steve says:

I must admit I prefer the agnostic view:

You don't know, I don't know, we don't know, so lets just get on with it. I won't think badly of you for wearing a silly hat as long as you don't mention my sandals.

When I was in the most die hard Atheist stage I think that it was a direct reaction to me being brought up as a Catholic. I guess we have stronger emotional responses to things that were once important to us.

I am now very comfortable with not caring about what is or isn't out there and concentrating more upon what is in here. It's made me a much happier person.

Just for the record, if I was playing the odds I would say that there isn't a god or any other deity for that matter.



8th Jan 2009, 03:12

Delilah says:

"Samson says:
God is coming Soon! This is the reality."

"Ooh, I best do my hair"

8th Jan 2009, 03:13

chris says:

Mat, when you say:

"...it's as impossible to make a definitive statement about there being no Higher Power as otherwise."

I can't prove that Father Christmas doesn't exist - there are books, films and songs written about him, he's a historical figure, and many people of a certain age believe he exists. However I'm not agnostic about him.

I'm afriad it's time to quote Richard Dawkins:

"I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at the bottom of the garden."

So I suppose in that respect I'm an agnostic atheist.

That aside, I'm not interested in forcing (agnositc) atheism on anyone else - but I like the fact that people can see there's an alternative view to Christianity.

8th Jan 2009, 08:11

Dhamaka says:

I just like the pragmatism of the proclamation

8th Jan 2009, 08:29